ما لا يقال: هل توقف قناة “الحياة” برامج القمص زكريا بطرس المثيرة للجدل؟ BBC

تلقت قناة بي بي سي عربي رسالة من منظمة جويس ماير التبشيرية الأمريكية تقول إن وسيطها في الشرق الأوسط أبلغها بأن قناة الحياة التبشيرية قد قررت التوقف عن بث برامج القمص زكريا بطرس اعتبارا من شهر يونيو/ حزيران. قالت المنظمة، التي تصنف قناة الحياة ضمن شركائها الرئيسيين والاكثر نجاحا في الوصول الى العالم الاسلامي: “نحيطكم علما وحسب ما افادنا به … فإن هذا هو الشهر الأخير لبرامج الأب بطرس على قناة الحياة”. بدأت قناة الحياة البث عام 2003.

ويعد القمص زكريا بطرس أبرز وجوهها وهو يقدم برامج تقوم على نقد الإسلام ورسوله محمد. وسبق له تبرير هذا النهج في لقاء مع شبكة مسيحية أمريكية قال فيه: “إن المسلمين مغسولو الأدمغة ويتعين صدمتهم لكي يفيقوا”. ويعاون القمص بطرس في القناة عدد من المتنصرين المصريين و المغاربة. جاءت رسالة جويس ماير إلى بي بي سي عربي في إطار إعداد القناة لفيلم وثائقي عن المتنصرين في العالم العربي ضمن سلسلة “ما لا يقال” ويذاع مساء السبت القادم. وقد سعى فريق البرنامج إلى لقاء المسؤولين في قناة الحياة التي تعمل في سرية تامة وتحيط العاملين بها باجراءات أمنية مشددة؛غير أن الرد على كل المحاولات كان بالرفض “لأسباب أمنية” كما أكد لنا المسؤولون عن القناة. من ثم توجه فريق العمل إلى جويس ماير بعد أن تأكد فريق العمل من وجود علاقة شراكة مع القناة ولكنها رفضت بدورها.

تابعت بي بي سي جهودها وقدمت إلى المسؤولين عن المنظمة مقتطفات من البرامج التي تبث على قناة الحياة وخاصة تلك التي يقدمها القمص زكريا بطرس. وردت جويس ماير في بيان إلى بي بي سي مشيرة إلى أنها تشتري ما نسبته 20 في المئة من إجمالي الوقت الخاص بقناة الحياة، وتبث برامج المبشرة الأمريكية عليها بالعربية والفرنسية تسع مرات يوميا، لكنها لا تتمتع بأي سلطة تحريرية على ما تبثه الحياة من برامج أخرى. ثم أعقبت ذلك برسالة أخيرة أبلغت فريق العمل بخبر إيقاف برامج القمص زكريا بطرس.

 تنوه المنظمة على موقعها الإلكتروني عن مشاريع تبشيرية وخيرية تقوم بها في مصر وفي لبنان. وتعد جويس ماير من أشهر المبشرين الإنجليين تصل قيمة ما تجمعه من تبرعات إلى عشرات الملايين من الدولارات سنويا في العام. وتشتهر جويس ماير نفسها بخطاب خال من العنف مؤيد للتسامح كما ينقل فريق العمل الذي حضر تجمعا لها في الغرب الأمريكي وسط الآلاف من مريديها من الأمريكيين.

 أما القمص زكريا بطرس فيقول إن أخاه قتل بسبب مواقفه الدينية واضطر هو إلى الخروج نهائيا من مصر الى الولايات المتحدة حيث يقيم الآن. وكانت الكنيسة القبطية في مصر قد أعربت عن عدم تأييدها لخطاب القمص زكريا بطرس

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9 responses to “ما لا يقال: هل توقف قناة “الحياة” برامج القمص زكريا بطرس المثيرة للجدل؟ BBC

  1. لا نريد ايقاف هذه القناةالفاشلة التي خسرت المعركة التي أقيمت من أجلها
    لقد فقد “زكازيكو”مصداقيته وظهر علي حقيقته من عدم مناظرة أي عالم مسلم وهم والحمد لله كثير جدا
    وظل يكلم نفسه ويسمع صدي صوته في الحمام وهو معجب بكذبه
    لم تكن مصادفة من طرد “زيكو” من قناة الحياة بعد أن أصبح” كارتا محروقا” وهم بالتاكيد يبحثون عن غيره …
    الفلوس كتيرة والكنيسة الارثودوكسية تعوم علي بحر من الذهب

  2. العبرة أهم من الزغزغة والدغدغة
    محمود أباشيخ

    قال القس غاضبا: أما كان الأفضل ان يذكر القرآن اسم المصلوب بدل ان يكرر الحديث عن النكاح .. لماذا لا يقدم لنا التفاصيل عن هوية المصلوب ؟ أم هو مجرد تشكيك لا غير

    قلت له: هون عليك يا حضرة القس فإن إرتفاع صوتك لن يجعلني أؤمن بأن الله مات علي الصليب وكذلك عدم معرفتي بشخص المصلوب لن يغير من الأمر شيا فدعنا نناقش الأمر في محبة

    قال انه يعتذر وان هذه طريقته في الحديث وأنه ليس غاضبا
    قلت: جيد .يا حضرة القس, أعرف انكم تهتمون بالتفاصيل الدقيقة… فكتابكم يذكر أدق التفاصيل عن كل صغيرة وكبيرة واعلم اني ان سألتك عن أحفاد مصرايم ما عليك الا فتح سفر اخبار الأيام الأول وذكر اسمائهم ..
    ومصرايم ولد لوديم وعناميم ولهابيم ونفتوحيم وفتروسيم وكسلوحيم الذين خرج منهم فلشتيم وكفتوريم … وبنو سعير لوطان وشوبال وصبعون وعنى ودبشون وإيصر وديشان.
    وابنا لوطان حوري وهومام.واخت لوطان تمناع بنو شوبال عليان ومناحة وعيبال وشفي واونام.وابنا صبعون أيّة وعنى. ابن عنى ديشون وبنو ديشون حمران وأشبان ويثران وكران. بنو إيصر بلهان ورعوان ويعقان.وابنا ديشان عوص واران
    قاطعني في حدة وهو يصرخ في : أنت لا تفقه شيا ولن تفقه أبدا .. هذه الأسماء دلالة علي حب الله للبشرية
    قلت: هل تحب نكمل قرأه الست وأربعين صفحة الباقية من هذه الأسماء كي نشعر بمحبة الله لشعب الله المختار ؟؟ أم نكتفي
    قال: لن أناقشك وأنت تعرف انك ذاهب إلي بحيرة النار والكبريت
    قلت: لن أثقل عليك إن كنت مرهقا حضرة القس لكن, رجاء محبة, فقط أخبرني .. ماذا يفيدك معرفة اسم المصلوب .. ومعرفة شجرة هذه الأسر العتيقة وكم دفع ولي عهد الملك بعل حانان بن عكبور مهرا لزوجته مهيطبئيل بنت مطرد بنت ماء الذهب
    قال: قلت لك ان الله يبين لنا انه يحبنا لذلك يذكر أسمائنا فردا فردا دلالة علي انه يتذكرنا فردا فردا
    قلت : لكنه لم يذكر الشيخ إسحاق ولا الشيح دارود ولا ابجال ولا دجل ميريفلي
    قال من هؤلاء
    قلت قبائل بلدي
    وقال وهل جاء من بلدك أنبياء حتي يذكرهم
    قلت وهل جاء من العرب أنبياء حتي يذكر أبناء إسماعيل
    قال لأنه ابن إبراهيم
    قلت لو كنت تعتقد بذلك لأقررت له بالبكورية
    قال ليست له بكورية لأنه ابن الجارية
    قلت شكرا يا حضرة القس, التفاصيل التي تطالب بها جعلتك عنصري تفرق بين خلق الله …. القرآن ليس فيه تفاصيل يا حضرة القس لكن فيه ما يعتبر به فبدل ان يفرد ستة واربعين صفحة لآباء محمد صلي الله عليه وسلم , جاء فيه ( أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ إِنَّا خَلَقْنَاكُمْ مِنْ ذَكَرٍ وَأُنْثَى وَجَعَلْنَاكُمْ شُعُوبًا وَقَبَائِلَ لِتَعَارَفُوا إِنَّ أَكْرَمَكُمْ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ أَتْقَاكُمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ خَبِيرٌ ) (الحجرات13)
    وهذه الآية يا حضرة القس علمتنا ان لا نقول عنكم ايها النصارى إنكم أبناء راحاب العاهرة
    وغادر القس قبل ان اثني علي اهتمام الكتاب المقدس بتفاصيل دقيقة عن زنا أهولة حتى انه يذكر لنا كيف دغدغ الرجال ثدييها وزغزغوا جهازها التناسلي بمذاكير وصفت بأنها كمذاكير الحمير ” وزنتا بمصر.في صباهما زنتا.هناك دغدغت ثديّهما وهناك تزغزغت ترائب عذرتهما ” سفر حزقيال 23/3 ” فَأُوْلِعَتْ بِعُشَّاقِهَا هُنَاكَ، الَّذِينَ عَوْرَتُهُمْ كَعَوْرَةِ الْحَمِيرِ وَمَنِيُّهُمْ كَمَنِيِّ الْخَيْلِ ” حزقيال 23/20

    أيها القس الذي قاطعني وكنت صديقا .. لعل تفاصيل الدغدغة والزغزغة مهمة لديك وكذلك حجم عورة من ضاجعوا أهولة ومقدار المني الذي يخرج منهم, لكن هناك أمور أهم منها أغفل كتابك عن ذكرها .. أنه يوم البعث ولا شك انك تدرك ان يوم البعث أهم من حجم الذكر وللأسف لا نجد له ذكرا في الأسفار الخمسة التي تنسبونها الي موسي عليه السلام
    ان معرفة اسم المصلوب وحجم ذكره وخبرته في الدغدغة والزغزغة لا تقدم ولا تأخر .. يكفي ان نعرف يقينا انه ليس المسيح عليه السلام’ أما عدم معرفة ركن من أركان الدين كالبعث والجزاء فيترتب عليه العدل الإلهي إذ انه ليس من العدل ان يعذب قوم لم يحذرهم أحد بالعذاب ..
    القرآن الذي تعيب فيه لانه لم يذكر اسم المصلوب قد أخبرنا عن معرفة موسي بالبعث والجزاء من يوم بعثته , قال الله سبحانه وتعالي في سورة طه ( إِنَّنِي أَنَا اللَّهُ لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا أَنَا فَاعْبُدْنِي وَأَقِمِ الصَّلَاةَ لِذِكْرِي (14) إِنَّ السَّاعَةَ آَتِيَةٌ أَكَادُ أُخْفِيهَا لِتُجْزَى كُلُّ نَفْسٍ بِمَا تَسْعَى (15) فَلَا يَصُدَّنَّكَ عَنْهَا مَنْ لَا يُؤْمِنُ بِهَا وَاتَّبَعَ هَوَاهُ فَتَرْدَى (16) )
    أيهم أهم لديك يا حضرة القس؟؟ الدغدغة, الزغزغة, حجم الذكر ومقدار الشهوة, هوية المصلوب, أم البعث والجزاء==============

  3. (((((((((((((الرد علي زيكووووووووووووو))))))))))) الرد على الحلقة الأولى.

    عنوان الحلقة الأولى..الله واحد أم ثالوث ؟؟

    يبدأ القمص زكريا بطرس الحوار فيقول: ((( هذه تساؤلات نواجه بها كثيرا” في كل مكان لأنها قضية غريبة على الفكر الإسلامي, كيف يكون الله واحد وكيف يكون ثالوث.؟؟… “كيف يكون إيماننا بالله واحد أي بالوحدانية ؟ وما معنى الثالوث ؟… أنا أجاوب على هذه القضية. فالثالوث ليس شيء معقد على الإطلاق.” ))).

    ملاحظة : تم وضع اقتباسات الحلقات بما تحويه من أخطاء.
    يقول (((الثالوث ليس شيء معقد على الإطلاق))).
    والرد بعون الله تعالى :
    أولاً : الثالوث ليس له أي نص واضح وصريح , فلا يوجد بالعهد القديم أو بالعهد الجديد لفظ ثالوث أو أقنيم أو أقانيم أو واحد في ثالوث أو مثلث الأقانيم , أو إن الروح القدس إله أو إن المسيح هو الله .
    فالثالوث عقيدة مبهمة لا تعتمد على نصوص واضحة وصريحة.
    ثانياً : لا يستقيم شرح ما نتخيل وجوده بدون نص إلهي , فالكتاب المقدس يحوي مئات الصفحات ولو كان هناك ما يسمى بالثالوث ويشكل ركناً أساسياً من أركان المسيحية , فمن الواجب أن نجد سطراً واحداً يتحدث عنه أو يذكره. لذلك شرح الثالوث باستخدام أمثلة الشمس أوالتفاحة أو المثلث وغيرها يجب أن يكون بعد وجود نص , فالشرح والمثال يشرح النص ولا يستقيم أن يعطي لنا أحد الأشخاص مثالاً يشرح فيه ما لا يوجد عليه أي دليل كتابي.
    سنرد بعون الله تعالى على الأمثلة التي يفهم بها الثالوث والتي غالباً يتم التلاعب في استخدامها, ولم تكن أبداً من أقوال وتعاليم المسيح عليه السلام.
    ونكرر السؤال , أين النصوص التي تتحدث عن الثالوث …؟.
    ثالثاً : جاء بالعهد القديم نصوص واضحة جداً عن وحدانية الله تعالى تبين بكل وضوح أنه يوجد إله واحد , ولم يأت أي نص من العهد الجديد ليشير أن كل من الآب والابن والروح القدس إله كامل ولكنهم معا إله واحد كامل كما نصت على ذلك قوانين الإيمان النصراني التي ابتدعت في القرن الرابع الميلادي.
    – (سفر التثنية 6 : 4 ” إِسْمَعْ يَا إِسْرَائِيلُ: اَلرَّبُّ إِلهُنَا رَبٌّ وَاحِدٌ “.)
    – ( سفر أشعياء 45 : 18 “لأَنَّهُ هَكَذَا قَالَ الرَّبُّ: «خَالِقُ السَّمَاوَاتِ هُوَ اللَّهُ. مُصَوِّرُ الأَرْضِ وَصَانِعُهَا. هُوَ قَرَّرَهَا. لَمْ يَخْلُقْهَا بَاطِلاً. لِلسَّكَنِ صَوَّرَهَا. أَنَا الرَّبُّ وَلَيْسَ آخَر.).
    فالتوحيد واضح ولم يرد أي ذكر للثالوث في العهد القديم.
    وعندما ننتقل للعهد الجديد , أول ما نذهب إليه هو أقوال المسيح الذي لم يرد على لسانه أبداً
    لفظ الثالوث , ولم يذكر في أي مرة أقنيم – أقانيم – متحدين في الجوهر ومنفصلين في الأقنومية – هناك ثلاثة آلهة ولكنهم إله واحد – الثالوث الأقدس – أنا والروح القدس والآب آلهة ولكننا لسنا ثلاثة آلهة بل إله واحد.
    فقد قال المسيح لله وهو يناجيه حسب العهد الجديد : ( يوحنا 17 : 3 وَهَذِهِ هِيَ الْحَيَاةُ الأَبَدِيَّةُ: أَنْ يَعْرِفُوكَ أَنْتَ الإِلَهَ الْحَقِيقِيَّ وَحْدَكَ وَيَسُوعَ الْمَسِيحَ الَّذِي أَرْسَلْتَهُ).
    فالمسيح عليه السلام لم يقل أن يعرفوا الأقانيم ولا يعرفوا ثالوثك ولا قال إننا الثلاثة لسنا إلا إلهاً واحداً ولا قال أي مما تم إقراره في مجامع القرن الرابع الميلادي.
    وعندما تم سؤال المسيح عليه السلام عن أهم وأول الوصايا قال ( مرقس 12 : 29…فَأَجَابَهُ يَسُوعُ: «إِنَّ أَوَّلَ كُلِّ الْوَصَايَا هِيَ: اسْمَعْ يَا إِسْرَائِيلُ. الرَّبُّ إِلَهُنَا رَبٌّ وَاحِدٌ..) , فلم يقل له المسيح إن هذه هي الوصية القديمة في العهد القديم والآن عليك أن تعرف أن أهم الوصايا أن تعرف الثالوث وأن الثلاثة واحد بل قال المسيح للشاب أول الوصايا : …. الرب إلهنا رب واحد. فهل كان المسيح عليه السلام يخدع السائل أم لم يكن يعلم أن هناك ثالوث ؟؟
    لقد قال في مثال أخر لأحد الأشخاص ( لوقا 18 : 19 …«لِمَاذَا تَدْعُونِي صَالِحاً؟ لَيْسَ أَحَدٌ صَالِحاً إِلاَّ وَاحِدٌ وَهُوَ اللهُ ).
    بذلك لا توجد أي نصوص صريحة وواضحة عن الثالوث في العهد القديم أو الجديد ومن حق كل منا أن يصاب بالدهشة نتيجة أن أهم معتقد في المسيحية لا يوجد له نص واضح , في حين أن قصة الجحش الذي ركبه المسيح بما فيها من تناقض واختلاف مكررة 4 مرات في 4 أناجيل والأمثال التي قالها المسيح بعضها مكرر في الثلاثة أناجيل الأولى!!.
    وهناك مئات المواضيع المكررة التي لا تضيف جديدا” ومن السهل جدا” الحصول على الكتاب المقدس والنظر في فهرس المواضيع لتجد أن هناك المئات من المواضيع المكررة بعضها يختلف قليلاً سواء بالإضافة أو النقص عن نفس الموضوع في مكان آخر ولكن البعض الأخر متطابق تماما” ولا نعلم كيف يكون هذا التكرار موجوداً لفقرات عديدة لا تؤثر في أي محتوى وفي نفس الوقت لا نجد كلمة أو جملة واضحة تتكلم عن أهم ما في العقيدة الموجودة حالياً وهو الثالوث ؟
    فكيف لا نجد في 7963 عدد أو آية من العهد الجديد آية واحدة فقط تقول إن الله مثلث الأقانيم أو واحد في ثالوث , أو الآب والابن والروح القدس إله واحد , أو الثلاثة آلهة ولكنهم إله واحد , أو المسيح هو الله المتجسد أو على الأقل تقول لهم كيفية التجسد أو وجود الأقانيم.
    هناك احتمالان فقط, أما أن تكون المسيحية بوضعها الحالي ليست من تعاليم المسيح, أو أن الكتاب ناقص وتعرض للتحريف والحذف والإضافة.

    انتهينا الآن من جزئية أنه لا يوجد أي نص صريح من أقوال المسيح عن الثالوث أما باقي النصوص التي يتم الاستدلال بها عن الثالوث فسيتم بعون الله تعالى الرد عليها بعد قليل .

    الشاهد مما سبق : الثالوث لا توجد له أي نصوص واضحة لذلك هو عقيدة مبهمة.
    والسؤال هل هي مفهومة أو منطقية بصرف النظر عن وجود نص واضح لها من عدمه !؟.

    قال زكريا بطرس : ((الثالوث ليس شيء معقد على الإطلاق))
    وبعد قليل في الحلقة الرابعة من نفس البرنامج سيذكر أن قدرة الإنسان على الفهم محدودة , لذلك لا يفهم الثالوث !!.
    وطالما نحن نرد على الحلقة الأولى سنتجاهل ما قاله في الحلقة الرابعة وهو الذي يرد به على نفسه في مقولته الثالوث ليس شيئاً معقداً !!.

    ثم نحن ننقل اعتراف آباء وقساوسة الكنيسة بعجزهم عن فهم الثالوث كما يلي : ( مثال الشمس والتفاحة لا يتم استخدامهم إلا مع العامة من شعب الكنيسة وسنرد عليهم بإذن الله تعالى ونبين زيفهم).
    أقوال الآباء حول الثالوث كما جاءت في كتاب ” شمس البر ” إعداد القمص منسي يوحنا – مكتبة المحبة – 30 ش شبرا – القاهرة :
    1- صفحة 118: قال العلامة أوجين دي بليسي : ” ما أعلى الحقائق التي تضمنها عقيدة التثليث وما أدقها , فما مستها اللغة البشرية إلا جرحتها في إحدى جوانبها”.
    2- نفس الصفحة: قال بوسويه :” ولقد خلت الكتب المقدسة من تلك المعضلة حتى وقف آباء الكنيسة حائرين زمناً طويلاً لأن كلمة أقنوم لا توجد في قانون الإيمان الذي وضعه الرسل, ولا في قانون مجمع نيقية, وأخيرا” اتفق أقدم الآباء على أنه كلمة تعطي فكرة ما عن كائن لا يمكن تعريفه بأي وجه من الوجوه”
    3- نفس الصفحة : قال القديس أوغسطينوس (من كبار آباء المسيحية ويطلق عليه فيلسوف المسيحية) قال القديس أوغسطينيوس : ” عندما يراد البحث عن كلمة للتعبير بها عن الثلاثة في الله , تعجز اللغة البشرية عن ذلك عجزا” أليما”.
    وهناك قصة شهيرة للقديس أوغسطينيوس سيذكرها زكريا بطرس فبي الحلقة الرابعة مناقضاً نفسه , القصة تقول أن أوغسطينيوس كان على شاطئ البحر يفكر في الثالوث ومدى عقلانيته ( لا يفهمه ويحاول أن يفهمه) فوجد طفلا” حفر حفرة صغيرة في رمال الشاطئ ثم أخذ ينقل بعضا من ماء البحر ليضعه في الحفرة , فقال له أوغسطينيوس ماذا تفعل ؟ , فقال الطفل سأضع كل البحر في هذه الحفرة, ضحك القديس أوغسطينيوس من تفكير الطفل الذي يريد أن ينقل البحر إلى هذه الحفرة الصغيرة , ثم قال : أنا أضحك من تفكير الطفل وأحاول أن أفعل مثله بأن أُدخل الثالوث إلى عقلي المتواضع الصغير, فكف عن محاولة فهم الثالوث وقال عبارته السابقة .
    4- القمص منسي يوحنا في صفحة 121 قال : ” إن سر التثليث عقيدة كتابية لا تفهم بدون الكتاب المقدس , ((ونحن لا نجد نصاً واضحاً في الكتاب المقدس يا قمص منسي يوحنا )) ثم يكمل , وأنه من الضروري أن لا يفهمها البشر, لأننا لو قدرنا أن نفهم الله لأصبحنا في مصاف الآلهة.”.
    بمعنى يقول أننا لو فهمنا الثالوث نكون آلهة !!.
    5- القس بوطر في كتاب “رسالة الأصول والفروع ” بعد أن شرح الثالوث قال : “قد فهمنا ذلك على قدر عقولنا ونرجو أن نفهمه فهماً أكثر جلاءاً في المستقبل, حين ينكشف لنا الحجاب عن كل ما في السماوات والأرض , وأما في الوقت الحاضر ففي القدر الذي فهمناه كفاية ”
    6- القس باسيليوس في كتاب ” الحق ” كتب فيه : “أجل إن هذا التعليم من التثليث فوق إدراكنا”.

    نقول من الممكن أن نترك شيئاً بدون أن نفهمه ولكن بعد وجود نص صريح عليه, فإن لم نفهم كيف تصعد الملائكة إلى السماء وتعود نتوقف عند النص الواضح الذي نعلم صدق مصدره , ولكننا لا نؤمن بما لا نجد له نصاً ولا نفهمه, فهذا ما يسمى بالإيمان الأعمى.

    حسب مدخل الكاثوليك للأناجيل المتماثلة وهم أول ثلاثة أناجيل بالكتاب المقدس يوجد 330 عدداً مشتركا بين الثلاثة أناجيل متى ومرقس ولوقا, فكان من الممكن إضافة أو استبدال أي من المكرر وكتابة أي شيء عن الثالوث إن كان الثالوث من تعاليم كتبة الأناجيل , الذين لم يسمعوا به ولم يعلموا عنه شيئاً .
    فكاتب أي من الأناجيل ممن كتبوا بعد المسيح بعشرات السنين كان من الممكن أن يضع عبارة واضحة عن أهم معتقد في المسيحية بدلاً من أن يكرر قصة الجحش الذي ركبه المسيح فتكون مكررة في أربعة أناجيل.
    ألم يستطع الله أن يوحي سطرا واحدا يبين طبيعته إن كان ثالوثاً كما تدعون ؟؟
    أما الأمثال الخاصة بالشمس والتفاحة والجردل, فسنرد عليها بعون الله تعالى وقبل أن نرد نرجو أن تتساءلوا من الذي قال لكم هذه الأمثلة ؟., هل قالها المسيح من ضمن الأمثلة العديدة التي جاءت في الكتاب المقدس أم قالها أُناس آخرون ؟
    (جاء بالأناجيل 29 مثالاً للشرح على لسان المسيح وليس بينهم مثال واحد عن الثالوث).
    7- الأنبا بيشوي عضو المجمع المقدس ومطران دمياط وكفر الشيخ والبراري – في مذكرة تسمى
    مذكرة اللاهوت العقيدي, تكلم عن الأقانيم وكيف تشترك الأقانيم في الجوهر الإلهي وتختلف في الخواص الأقنومية ولا نعلم مصدر هذه المعلومات ولا من أين جاءوا أو عرفوا بأن هناك شيئا يسمى أقانيم وأنها متساوية في الجوهر ومختلفة في الخواص و ….الخ , المهم قال نيافة الأنبا في نهاية المذكرة : ((وحينما نتأمل هذه العقيدة نجد أنفسنا أمام سر من أعمق أسرار الوجود والحياة ونجد اللغة لعاجزة عن التعبير عن عمق هذا السر)).
    ولا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله …. لا يوجد أي نص ولا تفهمونه وتعتبرونه سراً واللغة عاجزة عن تفسيره
    فهل أخفاه الله عنكم؟؟
    كيف عرفتم بوجوده ؟؟
    كيف عرفتم أن هناك ثالوثا ؟؟

    ومع ذلك يقول القمص زكريا بطرس أن ((الثالوث ليس شيء معقد على الإطلاق)) , فهذا قول مناقض لكل أقوال آباء الكنيسة الذين لم يفهموا الثالوث واعترفوا بذلك وأن الطريقة التي سيحاول من خلالها شرح الثالوث طرق ملتوية وسنرد عليه بعون الله تعالى
    وأهم نصين ذكرهما زكريا بطرس للاستدلال عن الثالوث سيتم الرد عليهم بالتفصيل بعون الله تعالى.

    يقول زكريا بطرس : ((( لماذا لا نكتفي بالقول أن الله واحد ولا داعي للثالوث الذي قد يصعب فهمه على البعض, سنضرب مثلا” لنوضح الهدف من هذا الموضوع وكيف أصر عليه الكتاب المقدس. عندما يكون الإنسان طفلا” تعطى له الحقائق مبسطة أن البشرية كانت في حالة طفولة فكرية في العهد القديم فخاطبهم الله بصورة مبسطة مبين أنه واحد فقط …ولكن عندما نضجت البشرية …بين الله تعالى لهم حقيقته وأنه ثالوث حيث أصبحت البشرية تستوعب هذه الفكرة))).
    الرد:
    أولاً : المغالطة الأولى تقع في قوله أن البعض لا يفهمونه في حين أن آباء وقساوسة الكنيسة لا يفهمونه وسيصرح هو شخصياً في الحلقة الرابعة أن الثالوث فوق مستوى العقل.
    ثانياً : المغالطة الثانية في قوله أن الثالوث أصر عليه الكتاب المقدس, في حين أن الكتاب المقدس لم يرد فيه لفظ ثالوث أو أقانيم أبداً فكيف يكون الكتاب أصر على شيء لم يذكره !؟.
    ثالثاً : قوله أن الحقائق كان يتم إعطاءها بصورة مبسطة حتى تنضج البشرية النضج العقلي الكافي فنرد بعون الله تعالى بعدة نقاط:
    1- معنى ذلك أن أنبياء ورسل الله تعالى آدم ونوحا وإبراهيم ويعقوب وإسحاق وغيرهم لم يعرفوا الله حق المعرفة لأن عقلياتهم لم تكن لتستوعب فكرة الثالوث , وفي هذا اتهام واضح للأنبياء.
    2- القول أن البشرية نضجت لتعرف وتفهم الثالوث قول خاطئ لأننا عرضنا أقوال الآباء واتضح أنهم لا يفهمون الثالوث فكيف تكون البشرية قد نضجت وكبار رجال المسيحية لم يفهموا الثالوث ؟؟
    3- لا نجد أي قول صريح أو ذكر للثالوث في الكتاب المقدس لنقول أنه تم إظهاره في الوقت المناسب !.
    4- لو افترضنا صدق الحجة التي أوردها بأن الله كان يقول إنه واحد ولما نضجت البشرية حتى تستوعب الثالوث قال لهم إنه ثالوث, ما الذي يمنع حسب نفس المقياس أن تنضج البشرية أكثر وأكثر ويكون الله مختلفا عن ما ذكره ؟ ما دليل زكريا بطرس أن هذه هي الصورة النهائية ؟؟
    فإن كان قوله ” لما نضجت البشرية , وضح لهم الله أنه ثالوث ” , أخشى أن يخرج علينا غداً ويقول الله ليس “واحدا في ثالوث” بل “اثنين في سابوع”, ويكرر الكلام الذي يتحدث به حول الثالوث فيقول نحن أمام سر خطير من الأسرار لا نفهمه , وتخرج مؤلفات اثنين في سابوع وكيف يكون الاثنين سابوعا ويخرج التبرير كالليل والنهار 2 والأسبوع 7 , وهذا سر عظيم عرفناه بعد أن نضجت البشرية !.

  4. فإن كان قوله ” لما نضجت البشرية , وضح لهم الله أنه ثالوث ” , أخشى أن يخرج علينا غداً ويقول الله ليس “واحدا في ثالوث” بل “اثنين في سابوع”, ويكرر الكلام الذي يتحدث به حول الثالوث فيقول نحن أمام سر خطير من الأسرار لا نفهمه , وتخرج مؤلفات اثنين في سابوع وكيف يكون الاثنين سابوعا ويخرج التبرير كالليل والنهار 2 والأسبوع 7 , وهذا سر عظيم عرفناه بعد أن نضجت البشرية !.

    لذلك نكرر الطلب أين النص الذي يقول لكم إن الله واحد في ثالوث ؟ , وبعد أن تأتوا بالنص أخبرونا كيف هو واحد في ثالوث وما هي العلاقة بين الأقانيم …؟؟

    سألت المذيعة ناهد متولي القمص قائلة : ((( بصراحة نريد توضيحا” أكثر لقضية الثالوث ))).
    أجاب القمص زكريا بطرس: (((نريد أن نوضح أن المسيحية تؤمن بإله واحد لا شريك له فالله واحد ولا نستطيع أن نقول أن هناك اثنان أو ثلاثة آله.))).
    وهذا كلام جميل جداً جداً ولكن سنثبت له انه مع إيمانه بإله واحد يؤمن أن الإله الواحد عبارة عن ثلاثة آلهة ومن قانون الإيمان نفسه.
    سألت المذيعة ناهد متولي : (((نريد توضيح فكثير يقولون لنا نريد آيات من الكتاب المقدس تصرح أن الله واحد ))).

    لا.. نحن كمسلمين لا نسأل عن هذا ..نحن لا نسأل عن آيات أو أدلة على أن الله واحد, كلنا يعرف هذا والفطرة السليمة تعرف أن الإله واحد لا شريك له ولكننا نسألكم كيف عرفتم أنه ثالوث وأنه 3 في واحد ..ونطلب أن تسألوا الكبار… من أين أتيتم بالثالوث وكيف عرفتم أن الواحد ثالوث ؟؟.

    يرد زكريا بطرس على سؤال المذيعة مستدلاً بالآيات التي تؤكد وحدانية الله, وهو النص الذي ذكرنا المنسوب للسيد المسيح الذي قال فيه إن أول الوصايا اسمع يا إسرائيل الرب إلهنا رب واحد, ومن الممكن أن نحضر أكثر من 100 دليل من الكتاب المقدس على أن الله واحد ولا يجد القمص دليلاً واحداً على الثالوث أو أن الله تعالى واحد في ثالوث .
    يقول القمص زكريا بطرس : (((ونفس الكلام الخاص بالتوحيد كرره رسل المسيح في رومية 3 : 29 و يعقوب 2 : 19.))).
    نعم فلم يكونوا يعلمون أي شيء عن الثالوث …
    يقول زكريا بطرس : (((وهذا ما نردده فيما يعرف بقانون الإيمان بالحقيقة نؤمن بإله واحد .. إلى أخره ))).

    لماذا لم يكمل القمص قانون الإيمان وقال إلى آخره ؟, سنكمله بدلا” منه وسيظهر سبب بتره للقانون قانون الإيمان النيقاوي القسطنطيني : ( مجمع القسطنطينية عام 381 ميلادية).
    “” نؤمن بإله واحد، آب ضابط الكل، خالق السماء والأرض،…. وبرب واحد يسوع المسيح، ابن اللـه الوحيد، المولود من الآب قبل كل الدهور، إله من إله، نور من نور، إله حق من إله حق، مولود غير مخلوق، مساوٍ للآب في الجوهر، الذي به كان كل شيء، …..وبالروح القدس الرب المحيي، المنبثق من الآب (والابن)، الذي هو مع الآب والابن يُسجد له ويُمجد، الناطق بالأنبياء. “”

    كم إله حتى الآن ؟؟؟
    إله واحد وهو الآب وبرب واحد يسوع المسيح الذي هو إله من إله , إله حق من إله حق ( إذن 2 إله” إلهان”) ثم بعد ذلك بالروح القدس الرب المحيي ( إذن 3 إله ” ثلاثة آلهة” ) , ولكنهم واحد وهذا هو الثالوث الذي لا دليل عليه إلا قوانين الإيمان ولم يفهمه أحد لأنه فوق العقل!!.
    سيتضح الأمر أكثر من القانون الأثانسي الذي وضعه أثناسيوس (حامي حمى الإيمان ).
    قانون الإيمان الأثانسي: ( القرن الرابع الميلادي).
    – هذا الإيمان الجامع هو أن تعبد إلهاً واحداً في ثالوث .وثالوثاً في توحيد. ..
    – وهكذا الآب إله .والابن إله .والروح القدس إله.
    – ولكن ليسوا ثلاثة آلهة .بل إله واحد.
    – وهكذا الآب رب .والابن رب .والروح القدس رب.
    – ولكن ليسوا ثلاثة أرباب .بل رب واحد.
    – وكما أن الحق المسيحي يكلّفنا أن نعترف بأن كلاً من هذه الأقانيم بذاته إله ورب.
    – كذلك الدين الجامع .ينهانا عن أن نقول بوجود ثلاثة آلهة وثلاثة أرباب !!!.
    – فالآب غير مصنوع من أحد .ولا مخلوق .ولا مولود.
    – والابن من الآب وحده .غير مصنوع .ولا مخلوق .بل مولود.
    – والروح القدس من الآب (والابن ) .ليس مخلوق ولا مولود بل منبثق.

    قالت ناهد متولي: (((في الحقيقة أن الأحباء في الإسلام يقولون أنكم تعبدون ثلاثة آلهة, وهذا هو الاتهام الموجه لنا فهل من الممكن أن نركز على هذه النقطة وهي أننا نعبد إلها” واحدا” .)))

    يرد زكريا بطرس : ((( نحن لا نؤمن بثلاثة آلهة … ونحن نؤمن بإله واحد لا شريك له وتعبير ثلاثة آلهة لم يرد نهائيا” في المسيحية.))).

    الرد بفضل الله تعالى :
    حسب قوانين الإيمان :
    1- الآب إله كامل , والابن إله كامل , والروح القدس إله كامل , ولكن الثلاثة إله واحد , وهذا جمع بين متناقضين , جمع بين الثلاثة والواحد أدى إلى المصطلح واحد في ثالوث وثالوث في توحيد.
    2- الآب رب والابن رب والروح القدس رب ولكنهم رب واحد , وهذا جمع ثان بين متناقضين .
    3- الابن مولود من الآب ولكنه إله كامل وكان موجوداً قبل أن يولد من الآب ( وهذا تناقض ثالث , كيف يكون الابن إلهاً أزلياً ولكنه مولود من الآب وكان موجود قبل أن يكون مولوداً !!.
    فلو أن أحد من النصارى قال : ” كان الابن غير موجود في وقت من الأوقات, أي قبل أن يولد بزعمهم , يكون قد هرطق أو كفر”.
    4- الروح القدس إله كامل وإله حقيقي وهو منبثق (أي خرج أو ظهر ) وهو أزلي حتى قبل أن ينبثق, فيقولون إنه منبثق من الآب , بينما الكاثوليك والبروتستانت يقولون إنه منبثق من الآب والابن.

    الشاهد أنكم تزعمون أن الله ثلاثة في واحد , وواحد في ثلاثة , وهذا هو الثالوث الذي لا تفهمونه ولا تجدون له أي دليل كتابي.
    نعم إنكم تقولون بالوحدانية ولكنها وحدانية جديدة , تؤمن أن هناك ثلاثة آلهة هم إله واحد , وإن سئلتم قلتم نحن نؤمن بإله واحد وذكرتم أول سطر في قانون الإيمان وتجاهلتم البقية التي لم ولن يفهمها أحد ولم يذكرها المسيح عليه السلام أبداً , والحاذق يجيب أن الإله واحد والابن كلمته والروح حياته , فكلمته إله لأنها هو نفسه وروحه حياته لأن روحه هي نفسها الله .
    وهذا ما سنرد عليه في وقته عندما يذكره القمص في الحلقات القادمة بإذن الله تعالى.

    ملحوظة : لفظ أقنوم لا وجود له في اللغة العربية وهي ترجمة ( Person ) التي تعني (شخص) بالإنجليزية وخوفاً من أن يقولوا وسط المجتمع العربي الذي غالبيته مسلمون, ( الله ثلاثة أشخاص ) قالوا ( الله ثلاثة أقانيم ) وفي أي كتاب بالإنجليزية عن الثالوث ستجدون ( 3 persons ) أي ( 3 أشخاص ).

    ذكر زكريا بطرس أهم نصين يستدل بهما على الثالوث وهما متى 28 : 19 ويوحنا الأولى 5 : 7
    فقال زكريا بطرس: (((المسيح نفسه هو الذي قال هذا الكلام في ( متى 28 : 19 فَاذْهَبُوا وَتَلْمِذُوا جَمِيعَ الأمم وَعَمِّدُوهُمْ باسم الآب وَالاِبْنِ وَالرُّوحِ الْقُدُسِ)
    الوحدانية واضحة من قوله عمدوهم باسم ولم يقل عمدوهم بأسماء لأننا لا نؤمن بثلاثة آلهة لها ثلاثة أسماء.)))

    توضيح : يعتبر زكريا بطرس وغيره أنه طالما الجملة جاء فيها ( اسم ) وهو لفظ مفرد ولم يأت باللفظ ( أسماء ) بصيغة الجمع , فلم يقل المسيح (عمدوهم بأسماء الآب والابن والروح القدس) بل قال (عمدوهم باسم الآب والابن والروح القدس ) يعتقدون أن هذا دليل على أن الثلاثة هم واحد .

    الرد : الكلمات التي قالها من المسيح لها الأولوية القصوى في التشريع وفي التعريف بالله تعالى فلا يعلم الله تعالى على الأرض أكثر من الذين أرسلهم الله تعالى .
    والمثال الذي أتى به هو القول الوحيد الذي يجمع ( الآب والابن والروح القدس) في جملة مما نسب للسيد المسيح عليه وعلى نبينا الصلاة والسلام.
    أولاً : في الكتاب المقدس جاء اسم وجاء بعده جمع لا يمكن اتحاده مثل :
    (التثنية 18:20) : “وأما النبي الذي يطغى فيتكلم باسمي كلامًا لم أوصه أن يتكلم به أو الذي يتكلم باسم آلهة أخرى فيموت ذلك النبي” .
    (لاحظ هنا أن النص قال باسم آلهة أخرى ولم يقل بأسماء آلهة أخرى.)

    والنص السابق بالإنجليزية هو :
    De 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
    النص السابق جاء به اسم name في صيغة المفرد وجاء بعده آلهة أخرىother gods جمع .وبالطبع الآلهة الوثنية ليست عبارة عن إله واحد في مجموعة.
    لذلك استخدام ( اسم ) حسب الكتاب المقدس ويكون ما بعده جمع لا يعني أن ما بعده قابلين للاتحاد في واحد أو متحدين في واحد.
    ثانياً : في اللغة :وجود (اسم) في الجملة لا يشترط أن يكون ما بعده مفرد. فهذا التركيب في اللغة يسمى جواز إفراد المضاف مع تعدد المضاف إليه

    مثال 1 : إن خاطبنا إحدى الجيوش أو الفصائل قائلين : حاربوا إسرائيل باسم مصر وسوريا وفلسطين.
    فالعبارة لا يوجد بها خطأ مع أن الثلاثة ليسوا واحدًا وكل منهم يختلف عن الآخر.
    مثال 2 : بيان موجّه للجيوش العربية : على الجيوش العربية أن تقاتل باسم العروبة والإسلام والشرف والكرامة والعدل . ولا يوجد خطأ في هذه العبارة ، وفي نفس الوقت العروبة والإسلام والشرف والكرامة والعدل ليسوا واحدًا .

    جاء في القرآن الكريم تطبيقا” لهذه القاعدة ( إفراد المفرد مع تعدد المضاف إليه ), قول الله تعالى : إِنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَمَاتُوا وَهُمْ كُفَّارٌ أُولَئِكَ عَلَيْهِمْ لَعْنَةُ اللّهِ وَالْمَلآئِكَةِ وَالنَّاسِ أَجْمَعِينَ [البقرة : 161]
    فجاء بالمفرد لعنة ولم يأت بالجمع لعنات مع أن ما بعدها الله والملائكة والناس أجمعين ليسوا واحد.

    ونتساءل : لماذا لا نجد نصاً واضحاً عن أهم معتقد إن كان المعتقد صحيحاً ؟؟

  5. ثالثاً : هل فعلاً قال ذلك المسيح عليه السلام ؟؟
    لاحظ بعض علماء المسيحية أنه إن كان عيسى قد أوصى حوارييه حقاً أن يقوموا بالتعميد وفق قوله “عمدوهم باسم الآب والابن والروح القدس” فمن المستبعد أن يكون الحواريون قد خالفوا الأمر وقاموا بالتعميد باسم عيسى المسيح وحده,وذلك لأن بطرس قال:
    (أعمال الرسل 2: 38 “فقالَ لهُم بُطرُسُ: تُوبوا وليَتعَمَّدْ كُلُّ واحدٍ مِنكُم باَسمِ يَسوعَ المَسيحِ ).
    فلم يقل عمدوهم باسم الآب والابن والروح القدس.
    وكذلك في (أعمال الرسل 8 : 16 … غير أنهم كانوا معتمدين باسم الرب يسوع)
    وبولس يقول في (رسالته إلى رومية 6 : 3. أَمْ تَجْهَلُونَ أَنَّنَا كُلَّ مَنِ اعْتَمَدَ لِيَسُوعَ الْمَسِيحِ)
    وفي ( رسالته إلى غلاطية 3 : 27 لأَنَّ كُلَّكُمُ الَّذِينَ اعْتَمَدْتُمْ بِالْمَسِيحِ )
    فمن الواضح أنه لم يذكر أي من الذين جاءوا بعد المسيح معرفة أي شيء عن التعميد باسم الآب والابن والروح القدس !!.
    مع أن المسيح حسب النص الوارد في (متى 28 : 19) قال ذلك أمام الأحد عشر تلميذاً على الجبل فيما يمكن أن يسمى خطبة الوداع أو آخر ما قاله المسيح ومن الصعب أن نتخيل أن الأحد عشر تلميذ نسوا هذا القول المهم والاساسى ولم يذكره أي أحد منهم بعد ذلك إطلاقا.
    والصيغة في ( مرقس 16 : 15 “وقال لهم اذهبوا إلى العالم اجمع واكرزوا بالإنجيل للخليقة كلها)
    فلا ذكر للثلاثة أقانيم في مرقس أو في العهد الجديد بالكامل وتم التأكيد على ذلك في عدد من المراجع المسيحية كما يلي :
    تفسير بيك Peake للكتاب المقدس (الذي طبع سنة 1919 ) ونال إعجاباً عالمياً واعتُبر المرجع الأساسي لدارسي الكتاب المقدس., يقول بيك: “يتم شرح هذه المهمة من خلال لغة الكنيسة وأكثر المعلقين يشككون في أن صيغة الثالوث موجودة في الأصل في إنجيل متى، حيث أن بقية العهد الجديد لا يحتوي على مثل هذه الصيغة بل يصف التعميد كما تم تأديتـه باسم يسوع المسيح )أعمال الرسل [2: 38] ، [8: 16]، الخ).
    تفسير العهد الجديد لتيندال – الجزء الأول، ص 275:إن من المؤكد أن الكلمات “باسم الأب والابن والروح القدس” ليست النص الحرفي لما قال عيسى، ولكن إضافة دينية لاحقة.
    الموسوعة الكاثوليكية، المجلد الثاني، ص 236.إن الصيغة التعميدية قد غيرتها الكنيسة في القرن الثاني من باسم يسوع{عيسى} المسيح لتصبح باسم الأب والابن والروح القدس.
    قاموس الكتاب المقدس لهاستينج- طبعة 1963، ص 1015 .
    النص التثليثي الرئيسي في العهد الجديد هو الصيغة التعميدية في متى 28: 19 “هذا القول المتأخر فيما بعد القيامة غير موجود في أي من الأناجيل الأخرى أو في أي مكان آخر في العهد الجديد، هذا وقد رآه بعض العلماء كنص موضوع في متى. وقد وضح أيضاً أن فكرة الحواريين مستمرة في تعليمهم، حتى إن الإشارة المتأخرة للتعميد بصيغتها التثليثية لربما كانت إقحاما لاحقا في الكلام.”
    هامش الكتاب المقدس النسخة الحديثة المنقحة NRSV : والتي هي من أدق التراجم للكتاب المقدس ومن الممكن شراؤها من دار الكتاب المقدس في أي فرع بالعالم ومن قام بوضعها هم أكبر علماء المسيحية وليس علماء الإسلام أو الهندوسية. مكتوب حول متى 28: 19″ يدعي النقاد المعاصرون أن هذه الصيغة نسبت زوراً ليسوع وأنها تمثل تقليداً متأخراً من تقاليد الكنيسة (الكاثوليكية)، لأنه لا يوجد مكان في كتاب أعمال الرسل (أو أي مكان آخر في الكتاب المقدس) تم التعميد باسم الثالوث.

    الآن بينا بفضل الله تعالى أن النص الأول الخاص بالثالوث:
    1- لا يتكلم عن الثالوث صراحة مع أنه أهم معتقد في المسيحية.
    2- من ناحية التركيب اللغوي للجملة لا توجد إشارة أن الثلاثة هم واحد نتيجة لأنه استخدم مفرد وهو لفظ (اسم ) بدلاً من استخدام لفظ جمع وهو (أسماء).
    3- هناك عبارة مشابهة في الكتاب المقدس تم استخدام فيها نفس التركيب اللغوي والبنائي للجملة ولا تدل على جمع متحد في مفرد ( ثالوث في واحد أو واحد في ثالوث أو أكثر ).
    4- هناك شكوك كبيرة حول النص وذلك لأن الرسل وكل من جاءوا بعد المسيح لم يعرفوا هذه الصيغة أبداً ولم يستخدموها وهذه أقوال علماء المسيحية.

    فهل عجز المسيح عليه السلام في أي مرة أن يقول هناك شيء اسمه ثالوث ؟؟ , أو أن يعطي مثالاً عن الثالوث ؟؟.
    وهل عجز أي من كتبة الأناجيل أن يوضح معتقدات المسيحية في سطر واحد يقول فيه إن الله واحد في ثالوث والمسيح هو الله المتجسد أو هو كلمة الله التي تجسدت من أجل خطيئة أدم وغيرها من التعاليم النصرانية التي لا نجد لها أي أسانيد من كتابهم ؟

    أقرأوا أقوال المسيح — أقوال المسيح عليه السلام وليس أقوال بعض المجهولين ونكرر ليس أقوال المجهولين الذي جاءوا بعد المسيح ووضعوا الرسائل والكتب, وضعوا رسائلهم الشخصية التي بها الكثير من السلامات والتحيات والأمور الشخصية مثل قول أحدهم لصديقه “أنا نسيت الرداء ( الجاكيت ), رجاء أرسله لي ” وضعوا هذه الرسائل داخل الكتاب المقدس وقالوا إن هذه الكتب بالوحي الإلهي والكتبة كتبوها بإرشاد الروح القدس ومع ذلك لا نجد في هذه الكتب أي نص صريح عن أهم المعتقدات والشرائع !!
    رسالة بولس الثانية إلى تيموثاس 4: 11 : لُوقَا وَحْدَهُ مَعِي. خُذْ مَرْقُسَ وَأَحْضِرْهُ مَعَكَ لأَنَّهُ نَافِعٌ لِي لِلْخِدْمَةِ. 12أَمَّا تِيخِيكُسُ فَقَدْ أَرْسَلْتُهُ إِلَى أَفَسُسَ 13 اَلرِّدَاءَ الَّذِي تَرَكْتُهُ فِي تَرُواسَ عِنْدَ كَارْبُسَ أَحْضِرْهُ مَتَى جِئْتَ، وَالْكُتُبَ أَيْضاً وَلاَسِيَّمَا الرُّقُوقَ…… 19سَلِّمْ عَلَى فِرِسْكَا وَأَكِيلاَ وَبَيْتِ أُنِيسِيفُورُسَ. 20أَرَاسْتُسُ بَقِيَ فِي كُورِنْثُوسَ. وَأَمَّا تُرُوفِيمُسُ فَتَرَكْتُهُ فِي مِيلِيتُسَ مَرِيضا.
    وهذا مثال من عدة أمثلة كثيرة ونرجو من أي عاقل أن يقرأ نهاية رسالة بولس إلى رومية وأن يقرأ الرسالة إلى العبرانيين المجهول كاتبها وسيعرف أن كاتبها مجهول من أي مقدمة للكتاب المقدس بل يكفي من اسمها, ( اسمها لم يكن أبدا” رسالة فلان إلى العبرانيين — بل الرسالة إلى العبرانيين ) أو أن يقرأ مقدمات الكتاب المقدس, وسيجد أنه بالعربية غالباً يخفون هذه الأمور عن العامة وللأسف بعض الكبار لا يعرفونها وكل ثقافتهم عدة أسطر تتحدث عن المحبة وصفحات تنتقد في الإسلام وتبحث في الشبهات حوله, اقرأوا مقدمات الكاثوليك للكتاب المقدس, اقرأوا الموسوعة البريطانية. اقرأوا الكتاب نفسه واسألوا هل هذا بالوحي أم لا ؟؟
    اسألوا لماذا لا نجد التعاليم الرئيسية مثل الثالوث وألوهية المسيح وألوهية الروح القدس وغيرها في الكتاب المقدس ؟؟

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  7. Dear:James we like to give you and to who read in english some thing about :Jesus True Guidance and Light series (3) IS ALLAH (S.W) ONE OR THREE? By: Munqidh Bin Mahmoud Assaqqar, PhD ACKNOWLEDGMENTS First, all praise and thanks to Allah – God Almighty. It is with great honor that I present this humble work to my reader, hoping that God Almighty will help him benefit from it, and makes him and me among those who know the truth and among the guided. Following the tradition of prophet Mohammad (PBUH) in thanking people who did us a favor, I would like to thank the many people who I benefited from in completing this work, and possibly my success in this work was a result of their prayers to God Almighty to help me to do so. I wish to express my appreciation and gratitude to my noble parents, who have done the greatest favor for me, in continuously fostering and cherishing me. I also extend my appreciation to my faithful wife, for her continuous support, help, and for her standing beside me during the completion of this work. I would also wholeheartedly like to express my thanks and gratitude to the translation team, who played a major role in enabling this book to reach the English speaking reader, Mr. Mahmoud Salah, the translator, and Mr. Ali Qassem, the proofreader. Finally, I express my thanks and appreciation to Dr. John Eales, who has done me a great favor by doing the final proofreading. Even though he is of a different faith, he managed to do so, for he is concerned about searching for the truth, and following scientific methods in study and discussion. I also extend my thanks and appreciation to all my brothers, friends and colleagues, who played any role in the completion of this book. Munqidh Bin Mahmoud Assaqqar, PhD INTRODUCTION (Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; and there is none like unto Him) (Holy Quran, 112: 1- 4) (Christ the son of Mary was no more than an apostle; many were the apostles that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!) (Holy Quran, 5: 75) (He was no more than a servant: We granted Our favour to him, and We made him an example to the Children of Israel.) (Holy Quran, 43: 59) (They say, “((Allah)) Most Gracious has begotten a son!” Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous! At it the skies are ready to burst, the earth to split asunder, and the mountains to fall down in utter ruin, That they should invoke a son for ((Allah)) Most Gracious. For it is not consonant with the majesty of ((Allah)) Most Gracious that He should beget a son. Not one of the beings in the heavens and the earth but must come to ((Allah)) Most Gracious as a servant. He does take an account of them (all), and hath numbered them (all) exactly. And everyone of them will come to Him singly on the Day of Judgment.) (Holy Quran, 19: 88 -95) These noble verses have summarized the Muslim’s concept, faith and belief in Allah (S.W) , the One and only, and His prophet Jesus (PBUH) . He is a noble prophet and a great messenger whom Allah (S.W) sent to declare monotheism, and supported him with signs and guidance. Monotheism, which is what Mohammad (PBUH) carried to humanity, is the faith and belief of all the prophets (PBUT) before him. (Not an apostle did we send before thee without this inspiration sent by us to him: that there is no god but I; therefore worship and serve Me.) (Holy Quran, 21: 25) However, Christians believe contrary to the Muslims, as they believe that Jesus (PBUH) is the Son of Allah (S.W), and some of them believe that he is Allah (S.W) himself. They also believe that He, (Allah (S.W)) came down from heaven, incarnated, was slapped, suffered and crucified, for the atonement of the sin of humanity, which they inherited from their father Adam. I question, where did they derive this belief, and is there some evidence in their books that support it? (Say, “Bring your convincing proof.) (Holy Quran, 21: 24) In this third part of my series, considering the importance and the seriousness of this issue, I put forward my important questions, was Jesus (PBUH) a messenger or God? Is Allah (S.W) One or three? In order to answer these questions, I will search and investigate the Holy Bible, the Old and the New Testaments, supported by the clergymen’s and the western free thinker’s statements. O Allah, show and guide us to the truth that we argue about, indeed, you guide, whom you will, to the straight path. Munqidh Bin Mahmoud Assaqqar, PhD Makkah, Saudi Arabia / Rabee Awal, 1424 (Lunar year) Email: munqidh@maktoob.com JESUS CHRIST IN MUSLIM BELIEF The Muslims’ belief in Jesus (PBUH), in summary, is that he is the son of the truthful and honored Mary; he was born miraculously without any male intervention or contact. Allah (S.W) sent him as a prophet and messenger to the Children of Israel, to declare monotheism and to prophesize the coming of the final prophet. Allah (S.W) also supported him with great miracles. Challenging the Jews, who wanted to kill him as was their habit of killing prophets, he continued his mission, and Allah (S.W) saved him from their wicked conspiracy and lifted him to the heavens. Muslims also believe that Jesus (PBUH) will come back again before the Day of Judgment, calling all to worship Allah (S.W), the One and only, following His statute and Law, breaking the cross and raising the flag of monotheism. To clarify this belief and for more illustration, we will review the verses of the Holy Quran, that Allah (S.W) has revealed regarding Jesus (PBUH). The Holy Quran mentions that Allah (S.W) has honored Jesus (PBUH) by making him the son of the pure Virgin Mary, whom Allah (S.W) had chosen above the women of all nations. “Behold! The angels said, “O Mary! Allah hath chosen thee and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all nations.” (Holy Quran, 3: 42) It also mentions that, Allah (S.W) honored her with many graces, “Right graciously did her Lord accept her: He made her grow in purity and beauty: To the care of Zakariya was she assigned. Every time that he entered (her) chamber to see her, he found her supplied with sustenance. He said: “O Mary! Whence (comes) this to you?” She said: “From Allah. for Allah Provides sustenance to whom He pleases without measure.” (Holy Quran, 3: 37), that Zachariah adopted her after her mother took a covenant on herself to give her child to Allah (S.W), and that He ordered her to worship Him. “O Mary! Worship Thy Lord devoutly: Prostrate thyself, and bow down (in prayer) with those who bow down.” (Holy Quran, 3: 43) Mary (PBUH) became pregnant with her child after Allah (S.W) had given her a glad tiding by the angel, and He gave him a name. “Behold! the angels said: “O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honor in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah. (Holy Quran, 3: 45) The verses declare that Allah (S.W) created this coming child, Jesus (PBUH), by a word from Him, without any human intervention. He created him with no father, and that would not make him divine, as Allah (S.W) also created Adam in an unusual way. “The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, and then said to him: “Be”. And he was. (Holy Quran, 3: 59) Allah (S.W) created Both, Jesus and Adam (PBUT) by the word “Be”. The Holy Quran also mentions the birth of this holy child and it was without a father, being his first miracle (PBUH). “And We made the son of Mary and his mother as a Sign” (Holy Quran, 23: 50) then Allah (S.W) Made him speak while he was still in his cradle, to refute the Jews’ wicked accusation to his mother, the pure virgin. “They said: “How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?” He said, I am indeed a servant of Allah. He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet, and He hath made me blessed wherever I be, and hath enjoined on me prayer and charity as long as I live. (He) hath made me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable, so peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)” (Holy Quran, 19: 28 -33) “He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the righteous.” (Holy Quran, 3: 46) When he (PBUH) grew up as a man, Allah (S.W) sent him as he sent many prophets before him. “And in their footsteps we sent Jesus the son of Mary”. (Holy Quran, 5: 46) His message was to complete the message of Moses (PBUH). “\'(I have come to you), to attest the Law which was before me. And to make lawful to you part of what was (before) forbidden to you” (Holy Quran, 3: 50), therefore, Allah (S.W) had given him the knowledge of the Torah, “Behold! I taught thee the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel” (Holy Quran, 5: 110) and He revealed the Gospel to him (PBUH). “We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light” (Holy Quran, 5: 46) Allah (S.W) had supported Jesus (PBUH) with miracles, and had given him many signs, that were enough to convince his people to believe in him. “Behold! thou makes out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and thou breathes into it and it becomes a bird by My leave, and thou heals those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. And behold! thou brings forth the dead by My leave.” (Holy Quran, 5: 110) Moreover, as a support, Allah (S.W) gave him the knowledge of the unseen, “I declare to you what ye eat, and what ye store in your houses. Surely therein is a Sign for you if ye did believe” (Holy Quran, 3: 49) and supported him with the Holy Spirit, Gabriel (PBUH). “We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the Holy Spirit.” (Holy Quran, 2: 87) The Holy Quran illustrates that Jesus’ (PBUH) message was for the Children of Israel only, “And (appoint him) an apostle to the Children of Israel, (with this message): ” (Holy Quran, 3: 49) and he delivered that message to them. “And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: “O Children of Israel! I am the apostle of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad.” (Holy Quran, 61: 6) The Holy Quran declares Allah’s (S.W) warning of committing excesses or exaggerating Jesus (PBUH). “O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him” (Holy Quran, 4: 171) and this is his true nature and identity “Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute. It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, “Be”, and it is.” (Holy Quran, 19: 34-35), for Allah (S.W) Created him by His word (Be), God does not need to have a son, Jesus or any other. Furthermore, the Holy Quran declares that Jesus (PBUH) did not claim divinity. On the contrary, he will reject and deny everyone who claims his divinity, and that will be when Allah (S.W) asks him: “And behold! Allah will say: “O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah.?” He will say: “Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, though I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden. Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, ‘worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord’; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up Thou wast the Watcher over them, and Thou art a witness to all things”. (Holy Quran, 5: 116-117) He (PBUH) would say that, for he is just a man. Therefore, Christian belief in him as divine, and as a son of God is false. “Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute.” (Holy Quran, 19: 34), “and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth” (Holy Quran, 9: 30), the verses also condemn those who say that Jesus (PBUH) is Allah (S.W) himself. “In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ the son of Mary. Say: “Who then hath the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all, everyone that is on the earth”? (Holy Quran, 5:17) Thus, the belief in this great prophet is one of the pillars of the Muslim faith, and Allah (S.W) will not accept one without this belief. “The Messenger believeth in what hath been revealed to him from his Lord, as do the men of faith. Each one (of them) believeth in Allah, His angels, His books, and His apostles. “We make no distinction (they say) between one and another of His apostles” (Holy Quran, 2: 285). May Allah’s (S.W) mercy and peace be upon them all! CHRISTIAN EVIDENCE FOR CHRIST’S DIVINITY In spite of their various opinions about Jesus (PBUH), Christian sects believe that he is God incarnate, supporting this claim with many passages from both the Old and the New Testaments, which speak of his Divinity. These passages, calling him Lord, God or the Son of God, convey that Allah (S.W) had incarnated in him, and that he had created some creations. They consider that his foretelling about the unknown and his raising of the dead is the greatest evidence of his Divinity. An Introduction to the Discussion on Christian Evidence for Christ’s Divinity It is important, before we start to discuss this evidence, to mention and consider these following few notes: 1) There is no passage in the entire Bible, Old or New Testaments, where Jesus (PBUH) himself declared divinity or that he asked people to worship him. Furthermore, not one of his contemporaries worshipped him. The Jews considered him as someone who claimed prophethood, some believed him, but the majority of them rejected the entire idea. There is no base in the Holy Bible for Jesus’ (PBUH) divinity. Regarding this, Deedat challenged the Swedish archbishop, in their televised debate saying: “I will put my head in a guillotine if you show me one verse where Jesus himself says ‘I am God’ or where he says ‘Worship me’.” In his book (The Secrets Key), Priest Fender explained why Jesus (PBUH) did not openly declare divinity in the New Testament. He said: “No one could understand this relationship and unity before his resurrection and ascension. If he did so, they would understand that he is God in a human body… the Jewish high priests wanted to catch him and stone him, the fact is that he did not declare his divinity except by puzzles and parables.” The fear from the Jews is an unacceptable reason for Allah (S.W) or even for Jesus (PBUH) to hide his identity. He used to face and condemn the Jews every now and then as is recorded in the Gospels. “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces, for ye neither enter yourselves, nor allow those who would enter to go in…. ye blind guides…. you fools and blind…. Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for you are like whitewashed tombs, you serpents, you generation of vipers, how can you escape being sentenced to hell? (Matthew 23/13-34) Surprisingly, how and why did he hide his identity from humanity? Doing so creates misguidance and confusion. 2) Not one of Jesus’ (PBUH) disciples considered him God, for none of them worshipped him. In addition, the disciples and Jesus’ (PBUH) contemporaries did not think of him as more than a prophet. (I will explain later) 3) The strongest evidence, which Christians present to prove Jesus’ (PBUH) divinity, is only in the Gospel according to John and in Paul’s Epistles, while the Synoptic do not contain a clear passage proving that. The fact is that the non-existence of this evidence in the Synoptic was the reason that forced John – or the writer – to write a Gospel about Jesus’ (PBUH) Divinity. In this Gospel, we find that he wrote what the others did not write, and that this Gospel is full of metaphors and philosophy, which differs from Jesus’ (PBUH) simple environment and style, which made many commoners follow him. 4) The non-existence of a clear passage, which proves Jesus’ (PBUH) Divinity in the Synoptic, was the reason that led Christians to fabricate and alter the Bible’s editions. An example for that is that they have added the only clear passage that declares the Trinity in the First Epistle of John (John 1, 5:7). Another example is in Paul’s First Epistle to Timothy. The editor’s fabrication is so clear. It says, “great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh”. (Ti 1, 3:16) This verse, and according to Chrispach, is a fabrication. He said, “It is a fabrication, as the word ‘God’ does not exist in the original codex, instead it contains the third person subject pronoun ‘He’ or the demonstrative pronoun ‘That or which’ ”. Explaining the reason, history and time for this fabrication, Priest James Anas says, “What makes the reading with the word ‘which’ more accurate, is that the old theologians did not mention it among the many verses, which they produced while they were refuting Arius. The reason for that change in the New Greek Manuscripts is the similarity between the two words. They both look alike in writing; the only difference between them is a small hyphen or a little dot. Most probably, the writers added this little line to clarify the meaning, thus, changing the word from ‘which’ to ‘God’. Then it spread over many copies in the middle centuries; conflicting what was found in the ancient copies, which contain only the word ‘That’”. If we read Paul’s above-mentioned verse correctly, apart from the editor’s intended fabrication, we will find that it talks about the appearance of godliness in a living body, but the new translations changed it to evidence for God’s incarnation in Jesus (PBUH). The Catholic Jesuits edition, the Douay-Rhiems Bible, and the Murdock Bible deleted the fabrication and corrected the verse. It reads, “Great is the mystery of godliness: which was manifest in the flesh”. (Ti 1, 3:16), replacing the word ‘God’ with the accurate word, ‘which’. Consequently, changing the meaning and the evidence for God’s incarnation in Jesus (PBUH) had disappeared. Another example of these fabrications is the translators’ alteration in the Epistle of Jude. In the most famous and popular Protestant Edition, the Revised King James Version, we find what would deceive and delude the reader. It reads, “Now to him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, to the only wise God our Savoir, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever.” (Jud 1:24-25) The fact is, that the verse mentions the ‘Savior God’ that would save people by Jesus’ (PBUH) mission and message, but not about Jesus himself. In the Catholic Jesuits’ edition, and in the American Standard Version, we find the verse as follows: “to the only wise God our Savoir, through Jesus Christ our lord, be glory and majesty, dominion and power” (Jud 1: 25) In the Protestant edition, they omit Jesus’ name to indicate that he is the Savior and not that he was the way to be saved. It calls Jesus (PBUH) ‘the only wise God’, but in the Catholic edition, the passage talks about Allah (S.W) ‘the only wise God our Savior’. Christians fabricated the verses when they could not find any evidence proving Jesus’ divinity (PBUH). Dear brother, whoever searches for the truth, I invite you to join me in order to study scientifically, together and hand in hand, the Christians’ written evidence in which they claim that they prove Jesus’ Divinity (PBUH). There are six categories of this evidence, 1. Verses that attribute divinity and lordship to Jesus (PBUH), which they call “God’s titles” 2. Verses mentioning his son-ship to God 3. Verses mentioning God’s manifestation in him 4. Verses that attribute God’s characteristics to him 5. Verses that attribute God’s deeds to him 6. Jesus’ miracles as a proof of his Divinity 1- VERSES THAT ATTRIBUTE DIVINITY AND LORDSHIP TO JESUS (PBUH) Christians present some passages attributing divinity and lordship to Jesus (PBUH), and they believe that these words are evidence for his Divinity. The first is his name “Yashua”, which derives from the Hebrew word “yehwa khalas” which means, “God has saved”. Another passage is what comes in the Book of Isaiah, “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6). They also believe that David’s description of the coming savior is undisputable proof because David called him “Lord”. “The LORD says to my Lord; Sit at my right hand, until I you’re your enemies your footstool. The LORD sends forth from Zion your mighty scepter. Rule in the midst of your enemies! Your people will offer themselves freely on the day of your power, in holy garments; from the womb of the morning, the dew of your youth will be yours. The LORD has sworn and will not change his mind, “You are a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek.” ” (Psalms 110: 1-4) Ibrahim Saeed, an Egyptian priest, says: “Any one, who is not convinced with Jesus’ Divinity after reading Psalm 110, is one of two people. Either he is an illiterate and ignorant, whose eyes are covered with stupidity so he will not be able to see, or he is an arrogant, whose heart is filled with stubbornness and he does not want to see”. There is another passage, which they also believe is proof of Jesus’ Divinity, that passage is in the Book of Isaiah, “Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, the virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.” (Isaiah 7:14) for the word “Emanuel” means, “God with us”. They believe that Jesus’ birth (PBUH) was a fulfillment of this prophecy, as the angel foretold Mary’s fiancé, Joseph the Carpenter. “She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins. All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had spoken by the prophet: “Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel” (which means, God with us). (Matt. 1:18-23) According to Christians, calling him Emanuel, “God with us” is evidence of his divinity. In addition, they present Paul’s, Thomas’, and Peter’s sayings in the New Testament regarding this issue. “According to the flesh, is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. (Rom. 9:5) “Thomas answered and said to him: ‘My Lord and my God’.” (John. 20: 28) “Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, “Be it far from you, Lord: this shall never happen to you”. (Matt. 16:22) “As for the word that he sent to Israel, preaching good news of peace through Jesus Christ (he is Lord of all).”(Acts 10:36) In Revelation, there is another passage in this regard, “For he is Lord of lords, and King of kings.” (Revelation 17:14) Names Do Not Prove Their Holders’ Divinity None of these words makes Jesus (PBUH) God. Many of these words are used as names only, and if someone’s name is god, that does not make him God. According to the New Testament, people named Paul and Barnabas gods when they had performed some miracles. “And when the crowds saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voices, saying in Lycaonian, “The gods have come down to us in the likeness of men!””(Acts 14:11) The Romans had the tradition of naming people, who had done something good for the nation, gods. This naming does not change the fact, does not change the creature to a creator, and does not change the mortal servants to immortal gods. The meaning of Ishmael’s name is “God hears”, the meaning of Jehoecham is “God raise” and of Joshua is “God saved”. These people are not gods, even though they had these names. We read in the Book of Revelation, “The one who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God. Never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name.” (Revelation 3:12) and in the Book of Numbers, “And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel” (Num. 6:27) but they are not gods. Was “God”, Jesus’ (PBUH) name? Muslims do not accept many of these passages, which the New Testament claims came from Jesus’ (PBUH) disciples, as true. They also believe that Christians intentionally fabricated these passages, as we found in the First Epistle of John (5:7). The fabrication and alteration may also happen because of bad and inaccurate translation. The word “Lord” (capitalized), which we find in the Holy Bible’s translations, used to implicate the word “God”, but we find that some English translations are using the word “lord (with small “L”, which means, “Master” or “Mister”. In the French translation, they use the word “Le mait” which means, “teacher”, and the same in other translations such as the German, the Italian and the Spanish. The word “Rab”, which came in the Arabic translation, is not new; it is the Aramaic word “Rabbi”, which is of Jesus’ (PBUH) and his contemporary’s Aramaic language. This word, “Rabbi” is used as a respectful attribution to a master or a teacher. The Gospel according to John mentions that the disciples used to call Jesus “Rabbi” or “Rabbony” and they meant teacher. Mary Magdalene turned to Jesus (PBUH) and said, “Rabboni; which is to say, Master…. Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord” (John 20:16-17) in another passage, two of his disciples called him, “Rabbi, (which means teacher.” (John 1:38) None of the disciples ever meant “God” when using that word to call Jesus (PBUH). What they really meant was teacher or master. Thus, they considered him like John the Baptist, as they said, “Lord, teach us to pray, as John taught his disciples.” (Luke 11:1) Using this word “lord” to mean master, is also common in the Greek language. Stephen Nail said, “The original Greek word that means ‘Master’, can be used as a way of respect. The prison guard spoke to Paul and Silas calling them rabbi or master. “And bringing them out, he said: Masters, what must I do, that I may be saved? And they said, Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved, and your house.”(Acts, 16:30), and this word is a word of honor”. What proves this explanation is, Paul’s words, when he described Jesus (PBUH) as “Rabbi” (lord), but he still put him as a servant of Allah (S.W). “That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ; the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom, and revelation in the knowledge of him.” (Eph. 1:17) Thomas’ response was not a direct speech to Jesus (PBUH). When he saw Jesus (PBUH) alive, and he thought he was dead, it was a great surprise for him, so he gave an exclamation, and it was “My Lord and my God.” (John. 20: 28) This meaning may be obscure in some translations, but it is clear in the Greek originals. In the Greek manuscripts, we find the words as follows, “apok-ree’-nom-ahee” which means (that was his reaction). The proof for this explanation is that Jesus (PBUH) said, in the same paragraph, that he would be ascending to his God. (John 20:17) If Jesus (PBUH) understood Thomas’ words as if he meant his divinity, he would not accept it. He refused even calling him good, for once, when his disciple called him so, he answered, “Why did you call me good? There is none good but one, that is, God.” (Matt. 19:17) If this was the case, how could he accept that someone call him God in reality? Regarding Psalms (110:1), it did not mean Jesus (PBUH) in any way, but it meant the expected messiah whom the Jews were awaiting, and he is the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH). Peter made a mistake when considering the passage as it was for Jesus (PBUH), he said, “For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he himself says, “‘The Lord said to my Lord, Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.’ Let all the house of Israel; therefore, know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified.” Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart.” (Acts: 2:34-37) The proof of Peter’s misunderstanding, and the Christians after him, was that Jesus (PBUH) denied that he was the expected messiah, whom David mentioned. “While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them a question, saying, What do you think about the Christ? (Whom the Jews were awaiting) Whose son is he? They said to him, The Son of David. He said to them, how is it then that David, in spirit, called him Lord, saying, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit on my right hand, till I make your enemies your footstool? If David then calls him Lord, how is he his son? And no man was able to answer him a word, nor from that day anyone dare to ask him any more questions.” (Matt. 22:41-46) Jesus (PBUH) asked the Jews about the expected messiah who David and other prophets had prophesized. “What do you think about the Christ? Whose son is he? They said to him, The Son of David.” He showed them that they were wrong and said, “If David then calls him Lord, how is he his son?” Mark also mentioned it, “”How can the scribes say that the Christ is the son of David? David himself, in the Holy Spirit, declared, “‘The Lord said to my Lord, Sit at my right hand, until I put your enemies under your feet.’ David himself calls him Lord. So how is he his son? (Mark12: 35-37) We also find the same in Luke. “How can they say that the Christ is David’s son? For David himself says in the Book of Psalms, “‘The Lord said to my Lord, Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.’ David thus calls him Lord, so how is he his son?” (Luke 20:40-44) The expected messiah is not a descendant of David, and Christians believe that Jesus (PBUH) is from David’s offspring as recorded in his genealogy in Matthew and Luke. Does Priest Ibrahim Saeed still insist in considering us as illiterates and unreasonable contenders because we say that that passage was not for Jesus (PBUH)? What came in Isaiah regarding Emanuel was not for Jesus (PBUH) either, for that was never his name, and no one had ever called him that. The story in the Book of Isaiah speaks about an event, which happened centuries before Jesus (PBUH), when Rosin, the King of Edom, conspired with Faqah ben Ramlia, the King of the Northern Israelite Kingdom, against the Southern Kingdom and its King Ahaz. The birth of Emanuel was Allah’s (S.W) sign of the end of punishment on Judea’s Kingdom, the destruction of Rosin’s and Faqah’s Kingdoms, and the death of the two kings by the hands of the Assyrians. Isaiah says, “Again the LORD spoke to Ahaz… Therefore, the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. He shall eat curds and honey. when he knows how to refuse the evil and choose the good. For before the boy knows how to refuse the evil and choose the good, the land whose two kings you dread will be deserted. The LORD will bring upon you and upon your people and upon your father’s house such days as have not come since the day that Ephraim departed from Judah–the king of Assyria.” In that day the LORD will whistle for the fly that is at the end of the streams of Egypt, and for the bee that is in the land of Assyria. ” (Isaiah 7:10 – 18) “Then the LORD said to me, “Take a large tablet and write on with the pen of man, ‘for Maher-shalal-hashbaz.’… and she conceived and bore a son. Then the LORD said to me, “Call his name Maher-shalal-hashbaz; for before the boy knows how to cry ‘My father’ or ‘My mother,’ the wealth of Damascus and the spoil of Samaria will be carried away before the king of Assyria.”” (Isaiah 8:1- 4) It is clear that this passage is about the Assyrian invasion of Palestine, which happened centuries before Jesus (PBUH). During that time, the boy was born, his father gave him a name after King Ahaz’s victory, which is “Mahershalalhashbaz”, and that name means, “Dashing to pillage and robbery” “Because God is with him”. This prophecy came true, and King Ahaz had his victory when the Assyrian king came and captured the two conspiring kings. “The LORD spoke to me again: … therefore, behold, the Lord is bringing up against them the waters of the River, mighty and many, the king of Assyria and all his glory. And it will rise over all its channels and go over all its banks, and it will sweep on into Judah, it will overflow and pass on, reaching even to the neck, and its outspread wings will fill the breadth of your land, O Immanuel.” Be broken, you peoples, and be shattered; give ear, all you far countries; strap on your armor and be shattered. Take counsel together, but it will come to nothing; speak a word, but it will not stand, for God is with us. ” (Isaiah: 8: 5-10) I have to mention here, that Luke’s author used a fabricated passage from the Book of Isaiah. Neither in the old Hebrew originals, nor in the Torah’s old translation, have we found any trace of the word “betolah”, that means, “virgin”, which was invented and fabricated by the Seventieth Translation writers, and the evangelists copied it from them after that, for it suited them. The word in the old Torah’s translations such as ecoela, thehodoshen, and semix translations, which belong to the second century, is “Alma” which means, “Young woman”. In the Revised Standard Version, 1952, the editors had changed the word “Virgin” into “Young woman”, but only in the English translation. None of the names, which are in the passage in Isaiah (Isaiah 9:6), were names for Jesus (PBUH). “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6) Where and when did any one call him wonderful, counselor, the mighty, the everlasting Father, or the Prince of Peace? There is not a single passage in the entire Bible that can show proof of that. If the Christians say that these were characteristics of Jesus (PBUH) and not names, we also say that these titles were not for him in any way. These characteristics speak of a victorious king who will rule his people and inherit David’s kingdom, and that is too far from Jesus (PBUH) according to the facts and the Gospels’ passages. Jesus (PBUH) was never a King of his people even for a day. On the contrary, he was a fugitive, scared and worried of the Jews; he also fled when his people wanted to make him a king. “Perceiving then that they were about to come and take him by force to make him king, Jesus withdrew again to the mountain by himself.” (John 6:15) He fled because his kingdom was not of this world and not on the throne of David, but was a spiritual kingdom in the hereafter. “Jesus answered, “My kingdom doesn’t belong to this world. If it did, my followers would have fought to keep me from being handed over to the Jewish leaders. No, my kingdom doesn’t belong to this world.” ” (John 18:36) In addition, Isaiah talked about the Prince of Peace and that cannot be an attribution to Jesus (PBUH), because the Gospels mentioned the opposite about him. “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household.” (Matt.10:34-36) Could this Gospels’ Jesus be a prince of peace? Furthermore, Isaiah talked about a capable person, he did not talk about an incapable one, who cannot do anything by himself. “I can do nothing on my own: as I hear, I judge” (John 5:30) “”Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, that the Son does likewise. ” (John 5:19) THE USE OF THE DIVINITY AND LORDSHIP TERMS IN THE BIBLE Calling Jesus (PBUH), “lord” or “god” is not evidence of his divinity, for they are commonly in use in the Holy Bible. The Holy Bible uses these two words to name many creatures, among them are the angels. In the Book of Judges, we read, “The angel of the LORD appeared no more to Manoah and to his wife. Then Manoah knew that he was the angel of the LORD. And Manoah said to his wife, “We shall surely die, for we have seen God.” ” (Judges 13:21-22) (ESV), but he meant “the angel of Allah (S.W)”. Allah’s (S.W) angel appeared to Sarah and gave her good news about Isaac. “And the angel of the LORD said to her… she called the name of the LORD that spoke to her, ‘you are the God of seeing.’ (Gen. 16:11-13) Another example is in the Book of Exodus, which talks about the angel who accompanied the Israelites when they departed from Egypt and the passage calls him god. “And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them along the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; that they might travel by day and night…. And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them.” (Ex.13:21, 14:19) The Torah also gives these names to some prophets, but it does not mean the real meaning of the word. Allah (S.W) spoke to Moses regarding Aaron (PBUT), “He will be to you as a mouth and you will be to him as God.” (Ex.4:16) (ESV), “And the LORD said to Moses, see, I have made you a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron your brother shall be your prophet.” (Ex. 7:1) The prophets named Gods in the Torah metaphorically, and it meant “messengers of God”, as mentioned in the First Book of Samuel, “(Formerly in Israel, when a man went to inquire of God, he said, “Come, let us go to the seer,” for today’s “prophet” was formerly called a seer.) ” (Sam.1 9:9) The Torah also mentions the word “God” and it refers to Judges, because they Judge according to Allah’s (S.W) Law. “But if the servant shall plainly say… then his master shall bring him to God, and shall bring him to the door.”(Ex.21:5-6) In the next chapter of the same book, we read, “If the thief is not found, the owner of the house shall come near to God to show whether or not he has put his hand to his neighbor’s property… The one whom God condemns shall pay double to his neighbor.” (Ex.22: 8-9) In the Book of Deuteronomy, we read, “then both parties to the dispute shall appear before the LORD, before the priests” (Duet. 19:17) In the Book of Psalms, “God stands in the congregation of God; He judges among the gods. How long will you judge unjustly, and respect the persons of the wicked?”(Psalms 82:1) It is clear that this passage talks about the Judges and the noble Israelites. The use of this word has spread even further to call all the Israelites, as mentioned in Psalms. “I said, you are gods, and all of you sons of the Most High. Nevertheless you shall die like men.” (Psalms 82:6) This passage is what Jesus (PBUH) quoted while he was speaking to the Jews. “Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, you are gods? If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say you of him, whom the Father has sanctified, and sent to the world, you blasphemes; because I said, I am the Son of God?” (John 10:34) The Holy Books continue in giving these names even to devils and nations’ false gods. Not only that Paul called the devil god, but also the belly. He said about the devil: “In whom the god of this world had blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ.” (Cor.2 4:4) He said the following about people who follow their desires: “whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame.” (Phi. 3:19) We find the same thing in Psalms. “For I know that the LORD is great, and that our Lord is above all gods.” (Psalms 135:5). The divinity of the belly and the others is metaphoric and not real. In “Explanation of the Faith’s principles” the authors wrote, “Moses was called god by God himself as he was acting on God’s behalf, and not because he was divine. The same goes for the Judges because they judge according to God’s Law. The belly, the statues and the money, it was called as such because some people had taken it as gods, and the devil was called god because he controls our world”. This is the Holy Bible’s language and way of expression; whoever insists on taking its words literally, is wrong. The lordship mentioned above was just metaphoric, and the same goes for Jesus (PBUH). In his book “the Precious Holy Bible seekers’ guide”, Dr. Samaan Kahloon wrote, “Expressions in the Holy Bible are very metaphoric and mysterious especially in the Old Testament”. He also wrote, “Expressions in the New Testament are also very metaphoric, specially “the words of our Savior”, and because some of the Christian teachers used literal interpretation methods, many of the false and corrupted opinions were spread around…”2 In addition, when Jesus (PBUH) heard about these metaphoric gods, he declared that there is only One True God who is Allah (S.W), he said, “And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.” (John 17:3) which clearly means that heaven and eternal life will be obtained by bearing witness that Allah (S.W) is One, and that Jesus (PBUH) is his messenger, and this is what all Muslims believe. 2- VERSES ATTRIBUTING DIVINE SON-SHIP TO JESUS (PBUH) The Gospels speak of Jesus (PBUH) as the Son of God, and Christians consider that as evidence of his divinity. Is that consideration correct, and what is the meaning of “the Son of God”? Did Jesus (PBUH) call himself the “Son of God”? The first issue that we have to consider is that Jesus (PBUH) did not call himself “the Son of God” except once (John 10:36). The rest of the Gospels’ passages tell us that his disciples and his contemporaries also said so. This is what made some scholars doubt that Jesus (PBUH) or his disciples had truly uttered these words. In his book, “The Gospel Dictionary”, Senger wrote, “That Jesus himself used this term is uncertain”. In this regard, Charles Gene Pair said, “The firm conclusion of the researchers’ studies is, that Jesus never claimed that he was the expected messiah, and he never called himself the Son of God… for this language was not in use except by Christians who were influenced by the Greek Culture.” Coleman, the prominent scholar, said regarding this title, “The disciples, mentioned in Acts, were influenced by their master who did not use this title and he did not want it, and then they followed his steps”. Jesus (PBUH) is also the “Son of Man” There are eighty-three passages in the Gospels, which mention that people repeatedly call Jesus (PBUH) “the Son of Man”, and these passages contradict and refute the few passages that call him (PBUH) the “Son of God”. Jesus (PBUH), according to the Egyptian Christian scholar Matta El Meskeen, had given himself this title “in order to hide his true divine son-ship when he spoke about himself”. If these passages, which call Jesus (PBUH) “the Son of God”, are proof of his divinity, the other passages, which call him “the Son of Man”, are solid proof of his humanity, dismissing the divinity passages to their metaphoric meaning. In Matthew, we read the following, “And Jesus said to him, the foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man has nowhere to lay his head.” (Matt. 8:20) In Mark, “The Son of man indeed goes, as it is written of him” (Mark 14:21) The Torah mentions that, “God is not a man that he should lie; neither the son of man that he should repent” (Numbers 23:9) therefore, Jesus (PBUH) is not God. There are many sons of God in the Bible, are they all Gods? The title “Son of God”, which was attributed to Jesus (PBUH), was attributed to many others, and they were not considered as gods. However, their son-ship was metaphoric, meaning, believers and righteous. According to the Bible, the following people are sons of God: Adam was the Son of God. “Adam, which was the son of God.”(Luke 3:38) David was the Son of God. “I will declare the decree: the LORD has said to me, you art my Son; this day have I begotten you.” (Psalms 2:7) Solomon was the Son of God. “He shall build me a house, and I will establish his throne for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son” (Chro.1 17:12-13) The writer of Luke gave this title to the angels, because the use of it was common. “For they are equal to the angels; and are the children of God.” (Luke 20:36) Other passages named others as sons of God or that God is their father. The disciples were sons of God, but no Christian said that they were Gods. “But go to my brethren, and say to them, I ascend to my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.” (John 20:17) “Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.” (Matt. 5:48) The entire Jewish race is also the Children of God. “They said to him, “We were not born of sexual immorality. We have one Father–even God.” ” (John 8:41) What come in Psalms and Job are alike. “For who in the heaven can be compared unto the LORD? Who among the sons of the mighty can be likened unto the LORD?” (Psalms 89:6) “Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD.” (Job 1:6) We also see that the Torah had given this title to the strong and noble people, and no Christian or others considered them as Gods. “The sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. ” (Gen. 6:2 – 4) Therefore, Christians cannot take these passages as evidence of Jesus’ (PBUH) divinity, and prevent using the same for Adam, Solomon and the others. In order to do so, they have to present solid predominant evidence, which they do not and will never be able to have. When the Jews wanted to fabricate an accusation for Jesus (PBUH), they said that he blasphemed by saying that he was the Son of God and meaning it in reality. Jesus (PBUH) rebuked them, and explained that it was metaphoric and not reality, as used in their books, which made all of the Jews sons of God. He (PBUH) said, “If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemes; because I said, I am the Son of God? If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.” (John 10: 35-37), meaning, if your book called you “sons of God” metaphorically, me too, I am saying that we are equal and I am the “son of God” metaphorically. The Correct Meaning of “Son-ship” The meaning of the son-ship of Jesus (PBUH) and others has a figurative and metaphoric meaning, which are, the one who is dear to God, the one who is obedient to God or the one who believes in God. Mark, when he spoke about the centurion, who saw the crucified person, wrote, “And when the centurion, whom stood over against him, saw that he so cried out, and gave up the ghost, he said, truly this man was the Son of God.” (Mark 15:39) When Luke mentioned the event, he changed the sentence to its equal. He says, “Now when the centurion saw what was done, he glorified God, saying, certainly this was a righteous man.” (Luke 23:47) We find the same use of this meaning in the Gospel according to John when he spoke about the believers. He said, “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name.” (John 1:12) and he said, “He that is of God hears God’s words” (John 8:47) Paul declared the same fact, he said, “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.” (Rom. 8:14) This metaphoric use is common in the Holy Books that speak about the children of evil and the children of the world. (John 8:44) (Luke 16:8). When the devils mentioned the real meaning of the son-ship to Jesus (PBUH), he condemned them. “And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuked them suffered them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ.” (Luke 4:41) He is the Christ only and not a real Son of God. Did Jesus (PBUH) claim that he is a real son of Allah (S.W) and he is equal to Him? One of the Christians’ allegations of Christ’s (PBUH) divinity is that he declared that he is equal to Allah (S.W) considering what came in the Gospel according to John. “Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the Sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.” (John 5:18) No doubt, that reading this passage out of context would make it evidence that indicates Jesus’ (PBUH) declaration of his real son-ship to God. This, only the unknowledgeable and ignorant people can accept, for, it is not true. To understand this passage, we have to read it in context. Jesus (PBUH) had treated an ill person on the Sabbath, which the Jews considered wrong; therefore, “the Jews persecuted Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the Sabbath day.” (John 5:16) but he explained to them why he had done so. “But Jesus answered them, My Father worked hitherto, and I work.” (John 5:17), which means that, as God works on all days, I am also doing a good deed. The Jews, who wanted to create a problem with Jesus (PBUH), considered his words “My father worked” as praising himself and a claim of the real son-ship to God. They considered this son-ship, which they commonly used metaphorically, as blasphemy and it meant that he was making himself equal to Allah (S.W); therefore, increased their desire to kill him. “Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the Sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.” (John 5:18) With a long meaningful speech, Jesus (PBUH) answered them, explaining and refuting their claim, and proving to Christians their incorrect understanding. (John 5:19 -47) I will summarize these meaningful points according to their subject. 1- Jesus (PBUH) assured all that he was following Allah’s (S.W) path when he worked on the Sabbath, for he did not do something but what agrees with Allah’s (S.W) statute. “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he see the Father do: for what things so ever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.” (John 5:19) 2- He spoke about many great things that Allah (S.W) has given him, “For as the Father raised up the dead, and quicken them; even so the Son quicken whom he will. For the Father judges no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son… For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; And hath given him authority to execute judgment also.” (John 5: 21- 27), but all these gifts, were from Allah (S.W), and that did not mean that Jesus (PBUH) is Allah (S.W), for Allah (S.W) can do all that Himself without needing any one to give Him anything. Jesus (PBUH) had clarified why he did so. It was because Allah (S.W) has given him these things considering his humanity and not divinity. He says, “And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.” (John 5: 27) He affirmed that he had no authority by himself, and he could not do any thing except what Allah (S.W) permitted him to do. “I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.” (John 5: 30) That is to prove that he is the son of man, not the Son of Allah (S.W) in reality, or the second hypostasis in Trinity as the Church’s Councils claimed. The great miracles that Allah (S.W) gave to Jesus (PBUH) were for two reasons. The first, is as he (PBUH) said, “For the Father loves the Son, and shows him all things that himself doeth”. The second is to prove his prophet-hood and make the people believe in him. “And he will show him greater works than these that ye may marvel. That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him… for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.” (John5:20, 23, 36) 3- Jesus (PBUH) assured that Allah (S.W) confirms his honesty. He said, “If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true… And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.” (John 5:31, 37) The record of this testimony is in the previous sacred books that foretold about him. “Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me… For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.” (John5:39, 46) Moses’ (PBUH) books, which Jesus (PBUH) and the Jews accept, do not contain a line regarding any prophecy about an incarnated or crucified God. They testify the coming of a noble prophet. Do the Christians not claim that Moses had prophesized Jesus (PBUT) when he said, “I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee? (Deut. 18:18) One of the people, who testify for Jesus (PBUH), is John the Baptist (PBUH). However, Jesus (PBUH) dispensed this true testimony with Allah’s (S.W) one-ness, which is in their scriptures. “Ye sent unto John, and he bore witness unto the truth. But I receive not testimony from man… But I have greater witness than that of John” (John 5:33, 36) There is nothing in the Baptist’s (PBUH) words that conveys the divinity of Christ, for he sent his disciples to ask Jesus (PBUH) whether he was the expected prophet or not. (Matt. 11:3) 4- Jesus (PBUH) declared that there was a difference between him and Allah (S.W) when he said, “For the Father loves the Son, and shows him all things that himself doeth…There is another that beareth witness of me… And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me… Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father”. (John5:20, 32, 37, 45) All these prove that Jesus (PBUH) is not Allah (S.W), for the lover is unlike the beloved, the witness is unlike the one who witnessed for, the sender is unlike the consignee, and the complainant is unlike the judge. 5- Jesus (PBUH) told the Jews that the way to eternal life is to believe in him and in his words. “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” (John 5:24) Those who did not believe in him will face as he said. “And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. I receive not honour from men. But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you. I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only? (John 5:40 – 44) From the above mentioned, we have seen that Jesus (PBUH) did not claim that he was equal to Allah (S.W), neither did he claim that the authority he had was his own, but he declared that Allah (S.W) had honored him and given it to him. The Son Who Was Descended from Heaven Christians believe that we should distinguish the son-ship of Jesus (PBUH) from the son-ship of the others. They do not argue that the passages, which mentioned the son-ship of others, are metaphoric, but Jesus (PBUH) is the Son of God in reality, for he is the only son who is descendant from above or from heaven. “He that cometh from above is above all.” (John 3:31) They believe that the sign of his divinity shines in his saying, “Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. (John 8:23) and that shows, according to Christians, that he is a unique divine son unlike the other sons. The meaning of this heavenly descending is the descending of the signs and the statutes, and not the descending of the person himself and that makes him equal to all prophets. John the Baptist (PBUH) is one of them. Jesus (PBUH) asked the Jews, saying, “The baptism of John, whence was it? From heaven, or of men? And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say unto us, Why did ye not then believe him? But if we shall say, of men; we fear the people.” (Matt. 21:25-26) I need to mention also that there are many true heavenly descendants in the Bible, but Christians do not consider them gods. The angel of Allah (S.W) was descended from heaven. “And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven.” (Matt. 28:2) The disciples were also descendants from above or from Allah (S.W), as mentioned in the Gospels, which means they believe in his name. “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name.” (John 1:12). This is a spiritual birth, which gives the heart of the sinner a great, complete and continuous change, as he or she is born again, and this happens when he or she believes and repents. The believers in Jesus (PBUH) are born from above by the faith that Allah (S.W) has given them. They are alike with other believers, as Jesus (PBUH) said, “Truly, truly I tell you, unless a person is born from above he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3), “Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ, is born of God.” (John1 5:1), and “that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.” (John1 2:29) Jesus’ (PBUH) saying, “I am not of this world”, is not a proof of his divinity in any way, for he meant that he is different from other humans by refusing this secular world, for which other people are longing. He (PBUH) said the same about his disciples when he felt that they wanted the eternal life, leaving this secular world. “If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.” (John 15:19) In another passage, he said, “I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.” (John 17:14), He (PBUH) said about his disciples what he said of himself, they were not of this world. If those words could make him God, it should also make all the disciples gods as well, but his expression was metaphoric as if we say, “this person is not from this world” and we mean, that he or she do not desire this materialistic world, but seeking Allah’s (S.W) love and the eternal life in the hereafter. ???????? 3- VERSES OF THE DIVINE INCARNATION IN JESUS (PBUH) Christians believe that some of the Holy passages convey divine incarnation in Jesus (PBUH). The following are some of these passages: “That ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.” (John 10:38), “He that hath seen me hath seen the Father… I am in the Father, and the Father in me.” (John 14:9-10) His saying, “I and the father are one” (John 10:30), remains the strongest evidence that Christians present to prove the divinity of Christ (PBUH). These passages, according to Christians, declare that Jesus (PBUH) is Allah (S.W) himself, and that Allah (S.W) is incarnated in him. God’s Metaphoric Incarnation in His Creations Scholars have analyzed these passages and proved the Christians’ misunderstanding of them. The Christians’ understanding of the verses that contain Allah’s (S.W) incarnation in Jesus (PBUH) – as they understand – is wrong. It is an indisputable fact that Allah’s (S.W) incarnation in his creations is a metaphorical incarnation, and it is the same for Jesus (PBUH). Allah (S.W), according to the Holy Bible, incarnates in many, which means the divine gifts (or attributes) are incarnated and not Allah (S.W) himself. In the First Epistle of John we read, “Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelled in him, and he in God. And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelled in love dwelled in God and God in him.” (John (1) 4:15-16). Therefore, Allah’s (S.W) incarnation or dwelling in those who believe in Jesus (PBUH), is not a true self-incarnation, otherwise, they will all be Gods. In addition, Allah (S.W) incarnates or dwells in anyone who keeps the commandments, but that does not mean that that person becomes God. “And he that kept his commandments dwelled in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abided in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.” (John (1) 3:24). The meaning here is that Allah’s (S.W) guidance and support are with and upon them. sake, and this, we find in the same Epistle. “No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because He hath given us of His Spirit.” (John (1) 4:12-13). The same is in the Gospel according to John. “I in them and you in me” (John 17:23) These verses denote and imply divine incarnation in all believers; it is, without doubt, a metaphorical incarnation, therefore, it is the same for Jesus (PBUH), and if some one wishes to claim otherwise, he or she should present the evidence. Furthermore, the Torah mentions a real incarnation of Allah (S.W) in his creations, but Christians do not consider them gods. In Exodus we read, “In the place, O LORD, which thou hast made for thee to dwell in.” (Exodus 15:17) and in Psalms, “Why leap ye, ye high hills? This is the hill which God desires to dwell in; yea, the LORD will dwell in it for ever.” (Psalms 68:16), and no one worships that mountain. There are two important claimed incarnation passages, which are, (John 10:30), and (John 14:9), do these two verses prove Jesus’ (PBUH) divinity? A) “I and the father are one” (John 10:30) This sentence, which is attributed to Jesus (PBUH), is one important verse for those who believe in Jesus’ divinity. They understand that there is a real unity between him and Allah (S.W), which he (PBUH) himself had declared in front of the Jews and, that he meant his divinity. In order to understand this passage, we have to read it from the beginning. During the Feast of Dedication, Jesus (PBUH) was walking in Solomon’s porch, the Jews came and said, “How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father’s name, they bear witness of me. But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as
  8. شكرا يا اخي الفاضل عالبرنامج ياريت تشوف الرابط ده فيه برامج كتير اوي ومستني رأيك فيه http://bnatwestat.com/vb/f13.htm

  9. مرحبا ( بنات) جزاكم الله خيرا على رابط المنتدى
    منتدى رائع للأخوات – ان شاء الله نشوف الفديوهات

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